The 2 Chandrian That Spoke When Kvothe Found His Family Dead
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As the title says, a careful re-reading of the passage where Kvothe discovers his troupe has been killed. I don't think I'm the first person to bring this upwards by any means, nevertheless I didn't run into a thread for it, so here goes.one. The scene where Kvothe discovers his troupe has been killed certainly makes us assume that the Chandrian killed his parents. Still, I am coming to believe that PR is a master of mis-direction. He's but letting us make the supposition that considering the Chandrian are present, they must have been the perpretrators. Allow's take a wait at a few lines.
Back by the fire, a bald man with a grey beard chuckled. "Looks like we missed a little rabbit. Careful Cinder, his teeth may be abrupt.
Superficially, information technology means they forgot to kill one person. Some other estimation is that they just didn't discover him during their initial search of the troupe. Further, nothing is explicitly said most whether they killed the troupe or not. PR has an amazing middle for details, so I doubt this was past accident.
Cinder goes on to show a fleck of malice past asking Kvothe where his parents are.
This, once more, makes usa assume that Cinder and the gang are killers. Yet, he might simply be a jerk. (A stretch, but supported in the next scrap.)
Next, upon Haliax'due south archway, Cinder says: "You are equally good as a watcher."
What is a watcher? People have speculated they are angels. How is Haliax as *good* as a watcher?
Haliax says "You are budgeted my displeasure. This one has washed aught. Send him to the soft and painless blanket of his slumber."
Now, many of u.s.a., myself included, initially read this as a euphemism for "impale the boy." However, consider that he meant it literally. He has nada against Kvothe, and is in fact telling Cinder to bestow upon Kvothe a kindness. (Also, is the following chapter of Kvothe in the forest where his sleeping listen picks upward the names he is so gifted at? Did Haliax bequeath this souvenir on him?)
Haliax then shows Cinder who is boss, which I don't necessarily impacts on whether they are guilty of the murder of the troupe, simply it does highlight what a badass he is.
The concluding point is that Haliax claims that all the members of the group are "too fond of their piddling cruelties."
Now, this *could* mean the murder of the troupe, which is certainly a valid interpretation. However, permit's say they didn't kill the troupe, and Haliax is simply calling their treatment of Kvothe a "little cruelty."
Something to think well-nigh. (Again,I don't think for a moment I am the only person to retrieve this, simply I didn't encounter a thread addressing information technology.)
Interesting. That could be absurd. What does the Cthaeh say nearly the Chandrian? My books are coming back in the mail tomorrow. It always tells the truth right? (I remember that is correct) So if it says whether or non the 7 killed Kvothe's parents that should answer information technology? Noah wrote: "Interesting. That could exist cool. What does the Cthaeh say about the Chandrian? My books are coming back in the mail tomorrow. It always tells the truth correct? (I remember that is right) So if it says ..." I tin can't recall what the Cthaeh says about the Chandrian.
Nevertheless, I do like the idea of questioning exactly who the "bad guys" are. There is already foreshadowing that the Amyr are non knights in shining armor that they are made out to be and information technology's entirely possible the Chandrian are non the demons they are made out to be. What we have at the moment is a lot of speculation.
Modernistic Kvothe remembers: Felurian had said the Cthaeh only spoke the truth.
The Cthaeh chops its sentences into fragments. Depending on how far into syntactical analysis you want to go you lot can return a narrative from what information technology says or you can conclude that it never says annihilation Kvothe doesn't already know, or believe, without e'er being false.
Kvothe remembers blood on Cinder'south sword during their conversation.
Bill'due south actually addressing a lot more than but whether or not The Seven murdered Greyfallow'due south men. I call back they did. Information technology'd exist kind of sanitized if they didn't, I guess.
I don't think Haliax was ordering Cinder to impale Kvothe, though. Non simply is sleep a big deal for Haliax, but the massacre is only separated from the exegesis on the 4 doors of the mind - sleep, forgetting, madness, and decease - by a two or three page interlude. And so we go 3 years of unremarkable hardscrabble Kvothe until he meets a dude with Elodin eyes.
thistlepong wrote: "Kvothe remembers blood on Cinder's sword during their conversation." I don't see that role. The moment Kvothe sees Cinder is described like this: "One of the men tumbled astern and came to his feet with his sword out. His motion reminded me of quicksilver rolling from a jar onto a tabletop: effortless and supple. His expression was intent, but his body was relaxed, as if he had just stood an stretched.
His sword was stake and elegant. When information technology moved, it cutting the air with a brittle audio. Information technology reminded me of the quiet that settles on the coldest days in winter when it hurts to exhale and everything is still."
He subsequently sheathed his sword. There is no mention of it being bloody in this scene.
My point is this: I think this is a classic case of mis-direction. We, the readers, rightfully (in our minds) jump to the conclusion that because Kvothe stumbles onto them at the scene, that the Chandrian must be the ones who killed his parents. I call back PR has shown that we are non to presume *anything* in this series of books. I believe the text supports this stance. (Not the Chandrian thing, I'm sure that is debatable, merely the idea of not assuming we know the truth.)
Now, if the Chandrian and Haliax were non the killers of Kvothe's parents and troupe, who was? There are but a few "supernatural" groups we've been exposed to thus far. The singers, the watchers, and the Amyr.
Hypothesis: What would Arliden have plant if he had kept digging into stories of the Chandrian? That perhaps the Amyr were the true villains? At which betoken the Amyr found them and killed them. Perhaps Haliax is sensitive to the arcane movements of the Amyr, or to forces near waystones, and he and the Chandrian arrived to investigate, simply only later on the Amyr had killed the troupe?
Mod I was remembering a homo with empty optics and a smile from a nightmare, remembering the blood on his sword. Cinder, his vocalisation like a chill current of air: "Is this your parent's burn down?"
Technically I suppose the entire narrative is remembering, but I tend to treat it as though it's not when discussing events within it. Information technology avoids tortured phrases like, "The homo who calls himself Kote telling the story of Kvothe as Kvothe remembers remembering..."
thistlepong wrote: "...less than a hundred pages later on,same bookI was remembering a homo with empty eyes and a smile from a nightmare, remembering the blood on his sword. Cinder, his voice similar a arctic wind: "Is this your parent's fire?""
Well, now it's problematic because the two recollections are at odds with each other. Information technology'south either an accident, or there is some reason he remembers blood in the second i, only not in the first. I'm amenable to ideas.
Mod Simply (isn't there e'er one?) I don't call up it's likely. I just don't sympathise the reasoning why the Chandrian would turn up at a place where their names are being sung and then coincidentally his troupe were murdered. Nosotros could and so speculate that they actually don't murder people who find out information about them, simply that'due south contradicted in the Mathum farm massacre (unless that'due south another coincidence).
I mean, information technology could be interpreted that they didn't kill his troupe merely like I said, I doubt it. And although information technology would alter Kvothe'southward quest for vengeance, if he killed them, it would withal be a good thing. In that location'due south a lot of lore leading united states to believe their evil: the truth in children'south rhymes, them being called Rhinta, Cinder being a villain with the looters...
Equally for the Haliax beingness equally good as a watcher. I assumed it was because he all of a sudden appeared and put his ternion on Cinder. In comparison to the watchers who are invisible angel-type beings. Easy to sneak I'd estimate.
Mod I practise think they Chandrian participated in there deaths. Just I recall yous are right about the sleeping heed bit. I never really considered that until now, but I have always thought Skarpi kinda woke Kvothe up from something along those lines. And so I will agree with that.
@Chris, I've e'er felt that there was some contradiction to the names thing. If the names bring them to the location, it makes sense they establish the Troupe but it doesn't make sense they notice the people at the mauthen subcontract, because, seriously, who there would know there true names to say them? Does drawing there likenesses upwardly or locating pictures of them describe them to people too? I never got that...
I've struggled so much with the names cartoon them in thing that I about dont recollect that has anything to do with them locating these people...
Mod Mod hmm...interesting.
That would be an interesting misdirect. Everyone assumes information technology was due to the pot existence establish and talked about. Here's my two bits....I'k going to kickoff re-reading the series with the thought that I'm not going to assume annihilation. I've said this before in the final day or 2, only I've come to respect the sheer amount of detail PR has put into the books then much that literally *everything* is done for a purpose. In essence, the way I feel right at present about this series is : assume goose egg.
Chris wrote: "Only Denna is at the farm and she'southward started writing the wrong type of song..." Does it say when she started writing that song? If this fits the text, very nice catch.
Mod Correct, on my first couple reads I was totally with that.
But it actually gets more specific about the fashion it should probably work in WMF. Elodin talks almost how calling names have a kind of power, only that it's not the aforementioned as actual naming. Then, my interpretation after that was, a person would need to use the true name of a chandrian to draw them. And Adem seemed to support this idea.
That all even so works out fine for the troupe, Arliden could probably accept found in that location true names and used them more than than a few times. Merely the people at Borrow Hill are literally so mutual they cant even pronounce the name of there own town correctly....how in the world are they going to know true names of Chandrian?
Non to mention, the departure in names from Adem to Atur! Plus the fact that saying Lanre seems to accept no consequences....
And that brings u.s. back to the affair almost who her patron is. I imagin knowing that would shed some low-cal onto the farm attack. But blue flames are present at both the farm and Kvothe'south family unit attacks. Mod Mod Perhaps we are all wrong about Cinder?
Mod Too, when she plays her song for Kvothe she says it took her months and months to perfect.
Tehlu, I love this grouping. then many cautious readers.I don't think Denna has annihilation to practice with Chandrians, though - I think Pat was simply looking for a reason for a serious fight between them. her patron? probably.
I but read the role where Kvothe talks to the Cthaeh again and if he does, in fact, tell nothing but the truth and so I think the Chandrian did kill Kvothe's parents. It says about Cinder, "Cinder is the 1 y'all want. Call back him? White hair? Night optics? Did things to your mother yous know. Terrible." and then about how Kvothe'due south mother held up better than his male parent, "Much better than your father, with all his begging and blubbering."
While he doesn't say in definitive terms that they did he does go onto say why they let Kvothe live. "Why did they leave y'all alive? Why, because they were sloppy, and because you were lucky, and because something scared them abroad."
That last bit about why they left Kvothe alive leads me to believe they killed his parents. I am basing this off what Kvothe has said before and the fact that the Cthaeh doesn't lie. Though if the Chandrian didn't that would be a cool twist.
Punctuation. Modern Usually when the narrative is internally inconsistent it suggests the mendacity or unreliability of the narrator. At some point, after encountering a number of such tensions, 1 must at to the lowest degree consider the possibility that the reader is being misled.
thistlepong wrote:"Usually when the narrative is internally inconsistent information technology suggests the mendacity or unreliability of the narrator. At some betoken, after encountering a number of such tensions, ane must at least consider the possibility that the reader is being misled. " We've discussed the unreliable narrator topic before, and this could be show of it. However, as I believe y'all besides know my stance on this topic, I was looking for other ideas to explicate the discrepancy.
Mod EDIT: description - I sincerely tin't talk my way out of some form of unreliability as the well-nigh plausible explanation; part of which is represented to a higher place.
thistlepong wrote: "That'southward honestly the all-time one. " Yous're right, in this detail example, it looks as if Kvothe is having a case of selective retention (i.east. he'due south being unreliable.)
That's certainly a valid reading. I don't like it, merely it'due south hard to contend against. I would like for that not to be the case however, mainly because the KKC novels are then well crafted, so well thought out, that having discrepancies in the text beingness waved off as "unreliable narrator" seems like a lazy way out (non for y'all, simply for Patrick). I feel like PR is putting too much effort into the details of Kvothe'south recollections to have the unreliable narrator menu played which would in essence call into question the entire story. IMO of course.
My arguments are very circumstantial, and would likely be thrown out of whatsoever court of law.
1. PR is very detail oriented. I personally call back that he wouldn't write Kvothe as an unreliable narrator considering that would undermine his attending to detail.
2. Nosotros don't know what Arliden's song was really about. This seems to be a very key mystery to me. Did Arliden uncover the truth about the Chandrian, or the truth about the Amyr?
3. Kvothe (in frame) doesn't speak about the Chandrian with whatsoever particular emotion. You'd expect a bit of vitriol out of him when he mentions them, only no, he says, without inflection "yes, this is a story about the Chandrian." It's very curious to me why he displays no detail emotion when he mentions them.
Information technology appears I'g not the only person who likes this theory.http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/02/roth...
From ArtfulMagpie:
"What can you lot tell me well-nigh the Chandrian?" [Kvothe] asked.
"Since you ask so sweetly, Cinder is the one you want. Remember him? White hair? Dark eyes? Did things to your mother, you know. Terrible. She held up well though. Laurian was always a trouper, if y'all'll pardon the expression. Much improve than your father, with all his begging and blubbering."
{ Kvothe remembers his expressionless parents, asks "Why?"}
"Why?" the Cthaeh echoed. "What a good question. I know so many whys. Why did they do such nasty things to your poor family? Why, because they wanted to, and considering they could, and because they had a reason. Why did they leave you alive? Why, because they were sloppy, and because you were lucky, and because something scared them away."
Now, it seems to me that the Cthaeh phrased all of that rather carefully. He says that Cinder is the one Kvothe wants and describes him. Then, without ANY names or pronouns attached, says, "Did things to your mother, you know." The Cthaeh rather carefully did NOT say "CINDER did things to your mother." The combination of "Cinder is the 1 you desire" with "did things" implies that "Cinder did things" merely doesn't actually specify it. And in the second paragraph, never once does the Cthaeh say, "The Chandrian did nasty things to your family because they could. The Chandrian left you lot live because y'all were lucky." No, he but says "they." The verbal "they" he ways is, over again, implied to be the Chandrian, simply never specified to be them.
If y'all were thousands of years old, more malicious than the homo listen can grasp, bound to utter honesty, and extremely fond of effing with people's heads, I think you lot'd have a few tricks up your sleeve for very carefully implying untruth while at the same time being scrupulously honest...
Mod I merely can't agree that this advise anything other than the fact Cinder did things to Kvothe mother though.
I exercise agree though that Rothfuss is swell at edifice niggling things and pocket-sized words into a larger moving picture - I just don't remember this is one of the instances, it wouldn't make sense for the overall story. (IMO)
I could maybe get behind the "they" theory, just I'd actually take to consider the gramatical presentation. When placed side by side with the fact that the set upward of the paragraph for Cinder strongly implies he was involved in the massacre, I just don't know how well supported that idea is, at least by this item quotation.
You're considering all of this in isolation. Take it all together.1. Denna knows the Chandrian as proficient guys. Why? (This opens the door to the possibility that Kvothe jumped to conclusions almost the Chandrian and has been barking up the wrong tree his entire life.)
ii. We're not specifically shown that the Chandrian kill Kvothe's parents. Why? (In my opinion, this is PR cleverly letting the readers jump to conclusions. It'due south done fairly, when he reveals that the Chandrian are good guys in book 3, nosotros'll look dorsum on this scene and say "Hey, they killed his parents" and PR volition say "Read a lilliputian closer."
3. Everything the Evil Tree says, when taken in context, tin exist extremely misleading. The "They" he talks well-nigh could very easily be some third party. And once again, nowhere does the Ctheah explicitly say that Cinder killed Kvothes parents. Once again, we accept to ask why? If there is no mystery to be solved, PR loses nothing by making it explicit. All the same, if there is a mystery to be solved, and then being ambiguous and unclear makes perfect sense.
Mod two. Interesting - I could follow this. Not a ton of back up for it, but I do enjoy it when Authors play off readers assumptions.
3. Similar I said I could probably get behind the They theory. It's a good point. The Cinder ane is a piffling iffy, but giving that some other read, the Ctheah does simply say, Did things to your mother, Terrible. Which honestly, does not necessarily have to mean killing her. There are lots of terrible things to be done that don't involve expiry and could accept fifty-fifty happened previous to said encounter. I recollect this, also combined with the implied idea that The Ctheah him/herself seems to have a grudge of its' own against Cinder - is rather compelling actually...
The other thing he finds is the Painting of the pottery from the subcontract. I just depicts them though. Mod He gets a second paw description of it and later a recollected second hand depiction from a superstitious commoner.
While I think it plays a office in the story, and the described imagery probably gives yous hints most things that involve certain chandrian, I concur, information technology certainly doesn't suggest them to be evil - and information technology may not even actually be reliable data at present that I'm thinking about it.
Right,just I retrieve it is reliable information. If I call up right, when she talks about the Amyr that she drew, she was afraid of it more than the others. I don't call back the exact quote. Modern The term 'god-fearing' springs to mind. And yet people withal seem to think he's good.
Mod @Chris - I like your point and the parallel y'all pointed out. I practice think it is interesting though that the only 1 depicted in a style that'south perhaps negative is the Ciradea. Though information technology does make sense, they are the ultimate judges of the Order Amyr correct? The ones that burn down peoples houses and all that lovely stuff?
Noah wrote: "Correct,but I remember information technology is reliable information. If I think right, when she talks virtually the Amyr that she drew, she was afraid of it more than than the others. I don't remember the verbal quote." I thought of it every bit reliable likewise until I started reading these comments. At present I'm reconsidering the fact the girl who drew the Chandrian and the Amyr from the vase had everything appear clearly in a "dream" then whe could draw it acurately. The dream now seems suspicious to me. lol
Bister wrote: " All the same he disregards this as childrens stories and keeps looking for something that fits his already created perspective." This is interesting and I hadn't noted it before. Nosotros likewise know that the teachers at the Arcanum view students who research the Chandrian every bit being kittenish, which has the effect of preventing anyone from researching them and discredits anything they might find. Poisoning the well, so to speak.
I'm curious now, if there is a divide between what children say of the Chandrian in the books and what adults say. I did a quick re-read of the beginning and ane boy is nigh to say something near the Chandrian earlier he is cutting off.
And lastly, I'd like information technology if the children were the ones closer to the truth because I've always liked the device where old wives tales comport more truth than the educated similar to acknowledge and this fits that idea.
Mod atomic number 26, burn down, mirror-glass. elm and ash and copper knives, solid-hearted farmer'due south wives who know the rules of games we play and give united states staff of life to keep away.
I'm sort of unwilling to impose a binary good/evil on (in?) the text. In a sense, I'1000 non certain it matters if the Seven killed Greyfallow'due south men. Information technology's only significant insofar as it motivated Kvothe's actions, and it could certainly be a blow if, or when, Kvothe learned he'd been wrong. Only it'd be just as devastating if he came to understand why whomever did it. Or worse, agreed with them.
Neb wrote: "1. PR is very detail oriented. I personally think that he wouldn't write Kvothe as an unreliable narrator considering that would undermine his attending to detail."
I think I might just continually and willfully apply a broader definition to prevent myself from coming down on one side or another without at least considering the possibilities. Any unreliability tin can be corrected by the frame, and we run into this happen from time to time. Bast contradicts him most Denna or fills in details most the Cthaeh and the rhinna, for instance. He may be narrating fairly every bit it happened: he witnessed the Seven, afterwards remembered a more graphic scene. In this way he'd just be somewhat naive, like the reader, and maybe, again like the reader, finally realizing the lay of his story every bit new information is revealed.
I really remember that would work well with your notion that the Seven might not accept killed his parents and that such an assumption pb to, well, the Waystone. If the frame is likewise him coming to realize that ignorance and assumption continues to inform his existence, it'south a subtle parallel rather than an indictment of the entire narrative.
I plant the line I was looking for, page 39 of NOTW: "You'd be surprised at the things hidden away in children's songs." This, by Kvothe to Chronicler the night they meet. I'm curious what else children's songs say nearly the Chandrian now. Mod Well, nosotros know quite a chip about children's songs and the Chandrian.
"When the hearthfire turns to blue,
what to do? what to do?
run exterior, run and hibernate
when his eyes are black every bit crow?
where to go? where to go?
near and far. Hither they are.
see a homo without a face up?
move like ghosts from identify to place.
whats their plan? whats their plan?
Chandrian. Chandrian."
Modern Shame on me, its one of the best ones! - Maybe it's time for me to reread again, I've been forgetting a lot lately.
Exercise yous think we could be taking that rhyme out of context at all? (In regular terms, not this thread terms LOL) I call back the only line that really seems negative is the run outside, run and hide line.
Also has anyone else noticed near all the information we get virtually the chandrian revolves around Haliax, Cinder, and Cyphus? We hardly ever go any lore well-nigh the others. What is upwardly with that? (Or perhaps I just missed it all because I was thinking more than than reading....)
Only a couple of thoughts...Why was the tree blocking the route? If we are going with the thought that the Chandrian didn't practise the act, this could exist an indicator. Perhaps road bandits or the similar blocked the road and were lying in expect. Maybe they killed the troupe earlier the Chandrian showed up. Seems a stretch to me, but the tree in the road has e'er bugged me. Why would the Chandrian need to block the road if they tin can just announced and disappear?
How long did the killing have? You'd remember Kvothe would have heard something. If he had just gone off to find his mother some Wild Sage, how far could he accept gone. We know he had a tendancy to wander and by him saying, "I hope they spent those last few hours well." that he was gone for at least a couple of hours. Nosotros also know that PR wanted usa to know how long he was gone.
I don't know, but it seems odd to me that the Chandrian would merely bear witness upwardly, enjoy sitting around the fire, harass the kid and and so have off.
☆ Becky ☆ wrote: "I don't know, but it seems odd to me that the Chandrian would just bear witness upward, enjoy sitting around the burn down, harass the kid and and then take off. " A: Who are you?
B: Who do you call back y'all are? (kidding)
C: Yes, I as well notice it odd that the Chandrian would simply sit down around after massacring a bunch of people for no good reason. I call up the Chandrian showed upwardly in response to the killing of Kvothe's troupe. My belief is that they were second on the scene after the people who actually killed the troupe.
Modernistic Why would the Chandrian demand to block the road at all. Arent the some kind of immortal badasses? LOL.
We practice get some feel with Bandits in WMF - anyone think if this is a tactic employed? Would be interesting, only we also have to recall Cinder specifically, aligns himself with Bandits. Then I dont know. There are a lot of what if'due south in this scenerio. I'chiliad sure Rothfuss put these in to torment us.
I'g enjoying this theory that the Chandrian didn't do it. I would honey for PR to publish the adjacent book and we all find that The Chandrian are just being persecuted for something. That'd rock. But at the same fourth dimension. I can't aid but think why would Cinder taunt Kvothe and talk almost his parents vocal, if that wanst continued to them being in that location?
Though I have to agree, simply hanging out by the burn down while surrounded by mutilated dead people is just freakin' weird and makes no sense. Seems like they would motility along afterward they finished what they came to exercise.
I do like the idea that the Chandrian might not have done it. When Chronicler starting time meets Kote and is trying to convince him to tell the story of Kvothe he says that people are telling their own stories. When Kvothe asks what they say doesn't Chronicler say that people say that Kvothe became one of the Chandrian.
Information technology would be fun if Kvothe finds out that someone else killed his parents and then joins the Chandrian or allies with them.
Modern He says that people are telling stories of a new Chandrian, with hair as scarlet as flames or something similar that.
Which pretty much screams Kvothe, and coincidentally I believe it is this comment that convinces Kote to tell the story.
Mod "Cinder is the one you desire. Remember him? White hair? Night eyes? Did things to your mother you know. Terrible." so virtually how Kvothe'south mother held up better than his father, "Much ameliorate than your father, with all his begging and blubbering."
"Why did they leave you live? Why, because they were sloppy, and because y'all were lucky, and because something scared them away."
From this, it seems obvious to me (but me, clearly). Even looking for discrepancies. The Ctaeh can only speak the truth. Cinder is the ane y'all want = Did things to your mother. In what way can this be inferred that Cinder wasn't the ane who killed K'south female parent?
Across that, I know we like Pat cos everything is relevant and we're looker for deeper intrigue. But I think it would be a bit cheap to prepare books where the 7 are the evil things to plough information technology on it's head. That's purely personal, I know there are people who would beloved that.
Amber - The rhyme is a bit ominous. The 'run and hibernate' also the use of the 'crow' which is often used in horror poems and films etc. Also, a human being without a face would scare me!
Becky - Aren't the Chandrian likened to a bolt of lightning from a blue sky? They strike suddenly and for no reason. The key word there beingness the 'suddenly'.
I'm totally knackered tonight so apologies if this reply is a fleck abrupt!
Chris wrote: "I just really tin't get on lath with this. This section kinda says it all."Cinder is the 1 you want. Remember him? White hair? Dark eyes? Did things to your mother you know. Terrible." then ab..."
Did you read post 27? Many of your objections are covered there.
Mod I hardly suspected the Chandrian of not being the ones to murder Kvothe'southward troupe, just that they may have done so with reason. On one hand, Bill makes an very interesting point and groovy topic for discussion, especially nearly reader assumptions. Merely on the other hand, I don't desire to ignore the idea that The Chandrian, everytime they are addressed, are surrounded by superstition and fear. Non to mention known prolifically for causing destruction and death.
I think it might be worth exploring though if The Chandrian do this willingly. We know that at least i of them lives in Nothing Simply Decay. What are the possibilities that outside of advanced entropy for metal and wood, i member might literally bring death with them whereever they go. Combined with the madness induced by another - is it possible having them together all at one time might be something of a combustable?
I dont know...I sound like a loonie, but whatever.
Anyway @ Chris - I think that section is definitely up for a reread for me because I'1000 in the middle on this ane - and I call up thats generally because I'm having trouble remembering the exact context.
Too, interesting that you bring upwardly the thought they are similar a bolt of lightning - since I'm pretty certain thats what Arliden suggests happened to the tree that roughshod. I like parallels like that.
The strike of lighting makes sense autonomously from the fact that they are just hanging out around the fire until Kvothe gets back. That does seem to stand out against their perceived nature. add: link comprehend
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